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Post by Spencer »

Trawling through ebay today I came across this description of a comic that I just had to share with you all.

The English used throughout at first made me extremely concerned for society as a whole, but when I encountered the word "barging" for bargain I couldn't help but smile ...

I have left the comic details off to save embarrassment to the vendor...

HERE IS AN **************** COMIC BOOK IT IS SHOWING ITS AGE AND NEEDS SOME TLC WITH PASHENTS I HAVE A FEW OLD COMMIS FOR SALE THES ARE A FEW HADFULL OF WHAT I MANAGED TO SAVE WHEN OUR ROOF WAS LEAKING A YEAR AGO THE REST WAS BEOND SELVEGE I HAVE LOOKED AT HOW TO RESTOR COMICS AND I JUS HAVENT GOT THE PASHENTS SO THOUGHT IT WAS TIME TO PASS THEM ON TO SOME ONE WHO KNOWS HOW TOO SINCE THE LEEK ALL I MANAGED TO DO WITH THEM IS DRY THEM OUT WITH OUT DAMAGING THEM FURTHER ALL PAGES ARE THERE AND IN ONE PEACE THER FRAYED AROUND THE EDGES AND WORN AROUD THE STAPLES AND SOME FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE GOT A BIT OF SAND/GRIT WHAT MUST HAVE GONE ON THEM FROM THE LEEK BUT I HAVENT TUCHED THEM IN FEAR OF DAMAGING THEM SO HERES THE CHE CHANCE FOR A RESTORER TO GET A BARGING AND MAKE A KILLING NO RESERV MUTTS GO TO A GOOD HOME HAPPY BIDDING.........

Sounds tempting huh?

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Heh, that's not the first description of an item I've come across that's near incomprehensible, read this review of a PC game from Amazon.co.uk...
the game is very compleycated and needs alot of time effort and forght. to play the game you really need to 1 be a compoter nurde and two you need to know exsactally how to use this compleycated game. personally when it comes to getting a really simle game the you can use really easally and just star and drive a train. personally i think the best train simulator is the micrsoft train simulator. thank you for reading. hope you found this yusfull.
you just couldn't achive these spelling and grammar mistakes by accident, it looks suspiciously deliberate.
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Another forum I go to occasionally has a long thread with funny car descriptions. One of the funniest was this "car" being sold by hillbillies in America. It was more like a giant bunk bed with several plastic chairs nailed to the top deck. Apparently it had a "NEW-FRONT-DRIVE-SHAFT And,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Bolt's!!"

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Old Freddy wrote: you just couldn't achive these spelling and grammar mistakes by accident, it looks suspiciously deliberate.
He might have a learning disability but bear in mind 1 in 6 people leave school unable to read now, and their parents aren't much better. I see atrocious spelling and grammar all the time, even from people I know. Some people just don't care, hammering out their words fast and loose because "it don't matter". :roll:
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Bad grammar doesn't really fuss me as long as I get the gist of what's written down but seems to really get the grammar Nazis on one for some reason :roll: The seller could have dyslexia or be a clever marketing ploy to get peoples attention but who knows..

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dandy mad wrote:Bad grammar doesn't really fuss me as long as I get the gist of what's written down but seems to really get the grammar Nazis on one for some reason :roll: The seller could have dyslexia or be a clever marketing ploy to get peoples attention but who knows..
It's not being a "Nazi" to expect adults to be reasonably proficient in their own language.

As I said, he may have a learning difficulty so that would excuse him but a lot of people today are just lazy writers. It never ceases to bemuse me that some people can spend their lives reading comics and books but they don't seem to absorb any spelling and grammar techniques from them.

The usual response to that is something like "I like to listen to music but I can't sing" or "I enjoy watching football but I can't kick a ball straight". That's not the same at all though. In order to read a comic one has to have learned to read. Therefore it's surely easier to write properly than to pretend to "unlearn" and write badly? :D
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I can't help but feel that text messaging has a lot to answer for - particularly when it comes to syntax and punctuation.

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Lew Stringer wrote: He might have a learning disability but bear in mind 1 in 6 people leave school unable to read now, and their parents aren't much better.
I think that is simply untrue especially the implications of the now part the literacy rate in this country is not falling it's just stagnating (It hasn't changed since 1960). This site seems to be where you got your 1 in 6 statistic off I feel there is a real difference between struggling to read and being completely unable. I'd imagine almost all school leavers can read but just not to a functional standard (what constitutes a functional standard is unkown to me).

Personally I find mocking poorly written english on the internet to be in bad taste, I would imagine many of those writing it may have Dyslexia or speak english as a foreign language and mocking them for this is unfair. Even if you dont care the vast majority of your spelling should still be correct unless you had a learning disability.

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As someone who lectures, that looks a lot like dyselxia to me.

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When you look at original manuscripts by famous authors it's surprising how often they turn out to be full of spelling mistakes - but then I guess that's what editors are for.

It takes no real skill to spell correctly with the aid of a modern spellchecker but writing well is a different matter entirely.

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True - when using a computer, there's no excuse for bad spelling - those red squiggly lines are there for a reason. Of course poor grammar is a different story.

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Tin Can Tommy wrote: Personally I find mocking poorly written english on the internet to be in bad taste, I would imagine many of those writing it may have Dyslexia or speak english as a foreign language and mocking them for this is unfair.
I don't think any of us were mocking it. I've already said twice that he might have a learning disability, and dandy mad also mentioned dyslexia. I'd never mock anyone like that as my aunt was illiterate throughout her entire life due to such a disability .
Tin Can Tommy wrote:Even if you dont care the vast majority of your spelling should still be correct unless you had a learning disability.
Not necessarily. Take a look at many forums, websites or even dating sites! I know several people who mis-spell a lot purely because of laziness, rushing their typing, or because they think good grammar isn't important. (Seriously, if writing isn't part of their job, some people really don't think it's important.) As Phil said, text messaging is perhaps partly to blame. (Personally I don't abbreviate my texts, except for using acronyms such as LOL.)
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A bit :offtopic2:, but http://leasthelpful.com is a treasure trove of nonsensical reviews (although usually in the 'clinical insanity' rather than simply 'learning difficulties' sense).

I particularly liked this one.
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Talking of texting & laziness culture, I found this website http://www.internetslang.com which says the meaning of all those text speak words etc very useful to an oldie like me because when my young sisters or facebook friends use them i dont know what half of them mean :lol:

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Lew Stringer wrote: I don't think any of us were mocking it.
Maybe they werent but that's just how I interpreted the posts.
Lew Stringer wrote:Take a look at many forums, websites or even dating sites! I know several people who mis-spell a lot purely because of laziness, rushing their typing.
There is a difference though between typos (which is often down to laziness) and simply not being able to spell a word. A mixture of these two seems to be what is happening in the example on the first post of this thread.
swirlythingy wrote:A bit :offtopic2:, but http://leasthelpful.com is a treasure trove of nonsensical reviews (although usually in the 'clinical insanity' rather than simply 'learning difficulties' sense).
I found that site a while ago it is quite odd and often the nonsense reviews come across as being quite surreal. With this one being among my favourites.

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