Looking for Judy comics from the early 80s... or information

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philcom55 wrote:from what I can remember she was originally presented in Mandy as a mysterious sports star (very much like a female Wilson), and 'The Girlhood of Valda' which followed it could just as easily have been seen as a straightforward historical tale - at least until the point at which the heroine steps Ayesha-like into the Fire of Life.
The realisation that the concept of Valda was based on that of Wilson from The Wizard hit me between the eyes many years ago. The similarities are so persuasive. Let's look at them. The title of the first Wilson story in 1943 was The Truth About Wilson, which neatly matches up with the first Valda serial The Truth About Valda in 1968. In both cases the protagonist turns up unannounced at a a sporting event, takes part without permission and triumphs convincingly. The sports officials present are at pains to point out that they cannot be awarded any prizes, but none are wanted. Both the miler Wilson and the ice skater Valda only wish to test their skills and abilities against the very best in the world. This approach is maintained throughout the serials.

A further match can be seen between Wilson's second series The Further Truth About Wilson, which tells the story of Wilson as a child, his growing up and his life in a cave on the moors with the old hermit Matthew, and The Girlhood Of Valda, which takes the reader back to Valda's childhood and her upbringing in a caravan at the hands of the gentle Dorcas, a Romany gipsy, who teaches her all about herbs. Matthew and Dorcas both die in these serials. The principal part of Wilson's legacy is the knowledge of herbs and how to prepare the elixir of life. From Dorcas Valda finally learns about the fire of life. In both cases these are to keep them alive long beyond their normal span but, given that Dorcas and Matthew die, they clearly do not promise eternal life. Wilson does not age in the same way that Valda does, but he does sometimes seem to be dead after a particularly gruelling athletic feat. However, he is deliberately allowing his body to recuperate and he is soon back on his feet, seemingly none the worse for wear. He does nevertheless return frequently to the moors around the fictional Yorkshire town of Stayling to refresh himself and take on board some elixir. Valda, on the other hand, often does age, appearing literally like an old woman. At such times she needs to immerse herself in the fire of life, after which she emerges young again and bursting with health. After such 'refreshment' both are ready to take on the best in sporting challenge. The sports change too. Wilson attempts to get world records in virtually all athletics events and even takes on the Aussies at cricket in two series, Valda certainly succeeds at ice skating, diving and tennis. The fire of life, incidentally, is something of a moveable feast because Valda does have her underground caves in various places. In the first series she is in the Austrian Tyrol but in her second series The Amazing Valda she is near the Mediterranean. This highlights a problem that does not seem to disturb Wilson quite so much. Fortunately Valda is eventually able to harness some of the power of the fire within a gem that she can then carry with her in a locket round her neck. The issue of age is crucial. We learn that Dorcas was born before 1587, and that Valda defended a family from Napoleon's troops over 150 years earlier, about 1820 therefore. This information about Valda appears in The Amazing Valda. We already knew that Wilson was born in 1795.

A third parallel can be found if we compare It's Wilson Again from 1947 with Valda In The Secret City from 1972. In both instances the protagonist discovers a lost tribe of Ancient Greeks in Africa and gets involved in their politically-motivated Games. Wilson helps the Pythians under Zinos defeat the Argites under the ruthless Icarus. Valda helps the Athenians against the Spartans in a society ruled by women. There are numerous repeats of these Valda stories between 1973 and 1978 but later tales such as Valda, Girl Of Mystery in 1979, Valda And The Survivors in 1980, Valda And She Of The Shadows in 1983 and Valda And The Baby Prince in 1984 owe little if anything to Wilson.

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Re: Looking for Judy comics from the early 80s... or information

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Lot's of 80's Judy's on ebay at the momment.

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thanks for the tip! :cheers:

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One story that must have been extremely popular was Be Nice to Nancy (reprinted in M&J as Be Nice to Nikki). Yvonne Baxter is under strict instructions to be nice his boss's daughter Nancy Norden because Mr Norden asked Yvonne be friends with her. Trouble is, Nancy is a vicious bully who makes herself the most hated girl in the school. So being nice to Nancy is big trouble for Yvonne, but Dad won't listen when Yvonne tries to tell him. It turns out Mr Norden's bright idea was a big miscalculation - he thought it would help to change his bullying daughter, who got expelled from her last school.

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Audited: M&J reprinted a lot of old stories from Judy and Mandy. Some appeared in Your Mandy/Judy Classic section. Others were just reprinted, sometimes under altered titles.

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Tammyfan wrote:Audiate: M&J reprinted a lot of old stories from Judy and Mandy. Some appeared in Your Mandy/Judy Classic section. Others were just reprinted, sometimes under altered titles.

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Thanks!

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Tammyfan, looks like you accidentally hit Quote instead of Edit.

And Audiate, for some reason your avatar isn't showing up.

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Digifiend: The shortcomings of replying by iPhone, I guess. It's hard to see some things.

Another Judy story that sticks with me is 'Hard Times for Helen'. It began somewhere around the #1301 mark (I don't have the first episode) and ended in #1312. Helen Shaw's mother becomes a celebrity when she wins the Superworker Award for her charity work. However, this leaves her way too much in demand from people who want favours (and take advantage of her), and this is in addition to all the extra charity work Mum has to do as Superworker. Helen is taking the brunt, suffering neglect and having to pick up after her mother all the time. On top of that, she is being bullied by her headmistress and teachers who compare her unfavourably with her mother and accuse her of being lazy, jealous of her mother, not in the least bit like her, etc, etc.

Someone must have been really wanting to make a statement about bullying teachers with this one. Not to mention people who are slaves to duty, over-generous and can't say 'no' to people.

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