Kid Robson wrote:The whole point of your comment (as is clear to all) was to suggest that I can't draw and therefore shouldn't criticise those whose work appears in a published comic.
Nonsense. I know perfectly well that you can draw.
Then why ask for examples of something you already know?
Phoenix wrote:The first piece of yours that I ever saw was Kevin and his Talking Socks, which appeared as long ago as 1995 on the rear cover of the spring issue of The Illustrated Comic Journal, that being number 29.
So you could have offered that as an example of my work for the evaluation of other members (who I'm quite sure are uninterested in the matter). Why didn't you?
Phoenix wrote:Between 29 and 30 you were invited by Bryon Whitworth to join me and Steve Holland as a third Technical Adviser.
Untrue - I was not asked to join you, I was asked to take over the duties of, essentially, acting editor. Due to the fact that Bryon and his son (who actually had no involvement in the ICJ) were listed as editors, I was listed as associate editor, or some such synonynous title. I actually edited every contribution which was sent to me - with the exception of any which turned up too late to do so.
Kid Robson wrote:in asking for details of weekly published comics in which my work has regularly appeared, you know you are asking for something that doesn't exist.
I didn't know that at all. I was merely surmising.
Why ask at all? What difference does it make if the work has been published or not? It's obvious that you were trying to imply that absence of publication equals absence of talent. Now you say you knew I could draw all along - so why make a big song and dance in asking for examples if the question of my abilities was never in any doubt? May I draw your attention to the fish from Denmark whose smell seems to accompany your every rationalisation?
Kid Robson wrote:what exactly were you trying to do? Solicit art samples which other members could evaluate (in which case I have more than amply fulfilled your request), or facetiously point out what everyone already knows? Namely, that I did not draw a regular strip in a weekly or monthly comic?
To be fair, I wasn't asking about regular strips, I just wanted to know about any
I repeat: Why? Unless you were merely trying to imply that someone whose comic strip work has not been published (on account of not working as a comic strip artist) should not be criticising someone whose work has
Kid Robson wrote:As for the cartoon that "only appeared on the bags of fish and chip shop", many thousands of that bag were printed and used all over Scotland, effectively resulting in it being seen by a far higher number of people than any week's issues of The Beano and The Dandy combined.
Well, I haven't seen it. Have you posted it anywhere? On your blog maybe? I'll follow up a link.
You've obviously already followed up a link to it (and therefore seen it), otherwise you'd never have known about it in order to refer to.
I suppose it serves me right for being born in England and preferring to live south of the border, because I do like fish and chips from time to time. Of course, I am well aware that seen
does not necessarily mean appreciated
Kid Robson wrote:I have always made it clear that I was not, contrary to your claim, indulging in "trashing of the cartoon work of every single one of the contributors", as I always made it clear that there were honourable exceptions. However, as the facts don't suit your purpose, once again, you conveniently ignore them.
Did you wilfully miss out a comment about your trashing of a venerable company's reputation?
No, but the company have trashed their own
reputation in my estimation, so that's a charge you should be laying at the door of DCT.
Kid Robson wrote:Incidentally, for someone who recently claimed to have little interest in comic art, you appear to be displaying a great deal of interest in the subject.
I don't have a great deal of interest in comic art, that's true, and I'm not really showing a great deal of interest in it now.
Well, you've sure fooled everybody on that one.
Phoenix wrote:My original reason for writing these recent posts was to complain about your bullying attitude to posters who simply don't agree with you, and then things just mushroomed out from there.
bullying attitude? I seriously think you need to take another look at some of your previous postings - especially your recent ones over in (but not confined to) the Girls' Comics section.
Phoenix wrote:I don't suppose you've had time to reflect on my suggestion that you pop off back to your blog, and stay there, have you? You are clearly at liberty to express yourself there as forcefully as you like, within the usual generally-agreed constraints of course, and you do have a lot of acolytes who don't seem to object to your occasional ranting and raving, or to your fantasies about anonymous messages from people like me. I only ask because, struggle as I may, I cannot see any meaningful contribution that you have made to the forum during your two-month residence here. What I do see is c180 posts over c60 days, a host of anodyne threads, started it would seem to persuade Admin that you are now a good boy, and not the troll that started two flame wars that ended up in acrimony, and with the two threads being blocked.
I was only aware of one blocked thread, but I think it's a bit rich to lay the blame for that exclusively at my feet. You're conveniently forgetting your own participation (and that of others) in that particular instance. As for popping off back to my blog, I'm sure that some others would agree with that sentiment - but only with the proviso that I take you with me.
Phoenix wrote:It is my sincere hope that your bicycle goes forward, unlike mine apparently, in the general direction of wherever it is that you live in Scotland. This forum will be well rid of you, and perhaps it will bring an end to the rapidly-decreasing footfall on our forum, which must have Al and his Administrators fearful that before long their beloved ComicsUK will be not much more than a wilderness.
Actually, I think you'll find that this forum has enjoyed its highest-ever footfall since I joined. Another example of your convenient distortion of the facts.
Phoenix wrote:I've said my piece now. I have no further comments to make, either to you or about you, I will have nothing to do with your threads, nor will I respond in future to any comment you may post on the threads that you didn't start. If, in the light of these comments, Admin choose to send me packing, so be it. The comments just needed to be voiced. Adios, Kid.
Well, you've certainly given me a piece of your mind. Trouble is, you can't really afford to spare it, in my humble estimation. Seems to me you're doing a runner simply because you know you can't defend your tenuous position and specious 'reasoning'.