The shelves are a disgrace!

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Re: The shelves are a disgrace!

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phoenix4ever wrote:The sloping shelf was the norm too for bookstalls on bus and railway stations. I think there is still at least one at Crewe.

Indeed there is, and I showed it on my blog a couple of years ago. The bookstall is still there:

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I clicked on your link, Lew. A nice reminder, thanks for that. My earliest memories of a railway station bookstall were at Preston. My father used to take me as a nipper to football matches at Bolton and Blackburn and as we were travelling from Lancaster we always had to change trains at Preston. The counter went back a couple of feet further than the Crewe one on your photo, and I can remember gazing open mouthed at the comics and story papers there. I was also fascinated by sporting weeklies for adults like The Winner, Racing and Football Outlook, and even Competitors Journal. My dad used to get those but he never bought me a single comic or story paper. He called them Penny Dreadfuls. Mind you, by refusing to indulge me, perhaps he caused my obsession. I had to have them.
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Bumping this topic up from the past....

After delivering my (late) tax records to my accountant I was in Smiths today and noticed they've had another redesign for the comics display. Previously The Beano, Dandy, and Toxic were on top of a six foot high shelf. Could it get worse?

Yes. Comics are now crammed into a small area, deep shelves which go back into darkness. Dandy, Toxic, Marvel Heroes, Spectacular Spider-Man, BeanoMAX and GI Joe were all right at the back, impossible to see unless one was rummaging through the comics at the front to find them. So the chances of new readers discovering titles are nil. And unless existing readers spend time looking into the shadowy depths of the back shelves they're not going to find what they're looking for either.

What was at the front? Puzzle magazines (Junior Puzzleworld or something) and Doctor Who Adventures and various other activity mags. There was a separate display box for The Beano but that had been filled with... Simpsons comics.

Small wonder sales are declining.

I consider this to be a very serious matter. Smiths charge publishers a premium for shelf space. Do publishers KNOW what's going on out there? Do their reps check on these things? Perhaps city centre branches have better displays, but do the reps check out the smaller towns to see what they're doing?

I find it bl**dy annoying that such careless treatment of comics could impact on the livelihoods of those of us who work in comics.

A new method of getting comics to kids must be found. There is no longer any point in relying on the old system if retailers are going to treat comics like this. The DFC tried the subscription model and sadly that failed, but there has to be another way. Unless improvements are made, holding retailers to account to do the job they're paid to do, I can't see British weekly/monthly comics making it through the next decade. :soapbox:

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I agree, it's awful for comics. Unfortunately, I think that Smiths - and other places too - seem to think that because comics are for kids (which not all of them are, such as Viz, which is definitely not for kids), no one will care about how they are arranged on the shelves. However, this is having a negative impact on comic sales.
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Lew Stringer wrote:

I consider this to be a very serious matter. Smiths charge publishers a premium for shelf space. Do publishers KNOW what's going on out there?
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Have you ever brought it up with D.C. Thomson or Egmont, Lew?
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Raven wrote:
Lew Stringer wrote:

I consider this to be a very serious matter. Smiths charge publishers a premium for shelf space. Do publishers KNOW what's going on out there?
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Have you ever brought it up with D.C. Thomson or Egmont, Lew?

Only the editors but it's out of their hands.

With thousands of newsagents around the UK it seems an impossible situation for publishers to check on to see if retailers are doing what they're paid to do.

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Lew Stringer wrote:There was a separate display box for The Beano but that had been filled with... Simpsons comics.

Small wonder sales are declining.
What's the point of display boxes if they put the wrong title in them? I've often seen Simpsons Comics or Doctor Who Adventures where The Beano belongs.

Something else too - last week I went in Smiths to buy Classics from the Comics. I found it - eventually - behind three copies of last month's issue! How many readers are going to think they haven't got the new one yet? And since it's the only shop I know of in Hull which sells it... idiots. :x
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I know I've said this before, but surely the retailer has a LEGAL obligation to display wares properly if an agreed payment for them to do so has been handed over by the publisher? It seems to me that the likes of W H Smith are on very dodgy ground by doing what they are doing.
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Brendan McGuire wrote:I know I've said this before, but surely the retailer has a LEGAL obligation to display wares properly if an agreed payment for them to do so has been handed over by the publisher? It seems to me that the likes of W H Smith are on very dodgy ground by doing what they are doing.
They could be within their rights. It might simply be that Egmont, Panini, and Thomsons are no longer paying the extra fee for front-of-shelf display. It might be that BBC Magazines and Titan are paying even more to secure a better position. I don't know.

However, the problem as I see it is the deal is made between publisher and company, and the company seems to either fail to tell the shop floor what to do, or the shelf-filler forgets. I've stood and watched staff of various stores quickly stuff the shelves with the comics from off the warehouse trolley, upside down, back to front, - with no consideration what should be at the front or the back. The staff are given a limited time to do this before doing their next task, so if they haven't been told any differently it's not really their fault. It's impossible for publishers to check every store to monitor what's happening.

Often the shelf-filler is needed on the til, so items are left. Yesterday my local Smiths had their consignment of the Christmas Radio Times left unopened on the shop floor, still shrinkwrapped, because they didn't have time to put it on the shelf. Presumably they did it later in the afternoon, or next day, but they lost at least one sale in not having time to do it earlier as I bought mine from a different shop.

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