The "gross comics" debate

[MikeC]

It's very punk in the sense that technique is not as important as actually doing it yourself, I think.

[felneymike]

I do comics myself too!, they're just very very "establishment". The "establishment" of comics as they appeared in approximately 1951 anyway.

Viz also started out as a self-published fanzine with wonky art too (and, from what i have seen of issue 1 scanned for a book, wasn't really all that funny to start with) and ended up being 'quite' sucessful!