Are weekly comics doomed?

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Re: Are weekly comics doomed?

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Can anybody else still use the edit facility on their posts on this thread, or am I being singled out for some dubious distinction?
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Kid Robson wrote:The option for editing my responses has vanished. I have my suspicions as to why. Anyone else noticed the same thing?
Perhaps it has something to do with your edits changing the thrust of what was there in the first place, or because members are putting their responses together on the basis of your pre-edited post, and consequently having to adjust their responses accordingly, a very irritating situation I'm sure you would agree, or perhaps it is because you weren't content with the level or strength of some vituperative comment, and your amended version ruffled a few feathers, or whatever. Why worry about it? At worst it will encourage you to be more circumspect in your judgements, more precise in your planning, more accurate with your phrasing, and so on and so forth. You could, of course, also look on the bright side. The removal of the editing option doesn't prevent you from sharing your opinions with us, manipulating us, gently chiding us, giving us puzzles to solve, such as, How on earth did he manage to wriggle out of that one? Nothing more alarming than any other Win/Lose situation, I would suggest.
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Kid Robson wrote:[
I'm not saying that children shouldn't be allowed to choose their own entertainment, I'm saying that they aren't necessarily the best informed as to what form the choices should be. .
Kid does have a point, as well as advertising to the children in comics they also had adverts for the parents explaining what was available in these cases for any older sisters, one 'School Friend' ad explaining the high standards, at least parents had some idea what they were buying for their children. Yes I know times have changed etc, it's all about communication. These examples are from Jack and Jill 1964.
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matrix wrote:
Kid Robson wrote:[
I'm not saying that children shouldn't be allowed to choose their own entertainment, I'm saying that they aren't necessarily the best informed as to what form the choices should be. .
Kid does have a point, as well as advertising to the children in comics they also had adverts for the parents explaining what was available in these cases for any older sisters, one 'School Friend' ad explaining the high standards, at least parents had some idea what they were buying for their children. Yes I know times have changed etc, it's all about communication. These examples are from Jack and Jill 1964.
It IS all about communication, I agree, but it goes both ways, is my point. Kids can listen to their parents, but I don't think it's entirely unreasonable or shocking to suggest that parents listen to their kids too.
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Kid Robson wrote:The option for editing my responses has vanished. I have my suspicions as to why. Anyone else noticed the same thing?
Perhaps it has something to do with your edits changing the thrust of what was there in the first place, or because members are putting their responses together on the basis of your pre-edited post, and consequently having to adjust their responses accordingly, a very irritating situation I'm sure you would agree, or perhaps it is because you weren't content with the level or strength of some vituperative comment, and your amended version ruffled a few feathers, or whatever. Why worry about it? At worst it will encourage you to be more circumspect in your judgements, more precise in your planning, more accurate with your phrasing, and so on and so forth. You could, of course, also look on the bright side. The removal of the editing option doesn't prevent you from sharing your opinions with us, manipulating us, gently chiding us, giving us puzzles to solve, such as, How on earth did he manage to wriggle out of that one? Nothing more alarming than any other Win/Lose situation, I would suggest.
Unlikely, as what you maliciously suggest has never happened. My edits are restricted to correcting the odd typo, or on a very rare occasion, making a sentence more concise without altering the meaning. An example of which I speak is on the previous page. An original comment, and the proposed edited version, one on top of the other. Never pass an opportunity to paint your own warped, completely devoid of accuracy, little picture of me, do you? And surely you're not suggesting that the moderators would single me out for such attention, are you? Why, that would question their impartiality in such matters. Tsk, tsk.
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Kid Robson wrote:Can anybody else still use the edit facility on their posts on this thread, or am I being singled out for some dubious distinction?
Don't panic, I can't edit either.
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Little Squelchy Thing wrote:It IS all about communication, I agree, but it goes both ways, is my point. Kids can listen to their parents, but I don't think it's entirely unreasonable or shocking to suggest that parents listen to their kids too.
And nor was I suggesting otherwise. However, the reality is that children's choices often have to meet with parental approval.
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Little Squelchy Thing wrote:
Kid Robson wrote:Can anybody else still use the edit facility on their posts on this thread, or am I being singled out for some dubious distinction?
Don't panic, I can't edit either.
I've noticed that it seems to be restricted to this section for some reason.
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Little Squelchy Thing wrote:
matrix wrote:
Kid Robson wrote:[
I'm not saying that children shouldn't be allowed to choose their own entertainment, I'm saying that they aren't necessarily the best informed as to what form the choices should be. .
Kid does have a point, as well as advertising to the children in comics they also had adverts for the parents explaining what was available in these cases for any older sisters, one 'School Friend' ad explaining the high standards, at least parents had some idea what they were buying for their children. Yes I know times have changed etc, it's all about communication. These examples are from Jack and Jill 1964.
It IS all about communication, I agree, but it goes both ways, is my point. Kids can listen to their parents, but I don't think it's entirely unreasonable or shocking to suggest that parents listen to their kids too.
Not suggesting that at all LST, I'm all for maintaining or encouraging independence. I just wanted to show as well as lots of ads to the children they also communicated to the parents so when young Johnny or Debbie came along and asked for those comics the parents all ready new what they were talking about.
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Phoenix wrote:Perhaps it has something to do with your edits changing the thrust of what was there in the first place, or because members are putting their responses together on the basis of your pre-edited post, and consequently having to adjust their responses accordingly, a very irritating situation I'm sure you would agree, or perhaps it is because you weren't content with the level or strength of some vituperative comment, and your amended version ruffled a few feathers, or whatever. Why worry about it? At worst it will encourage you to be more circumspect in your judgements, more precise in your planning, more accurate with your phrasing, and so on and so forth. You could, of course, also look on the bright side. The removal of the editing option doesn't prevent you from sharing your opinions with us, manipulating us, gently chiding us, giving us puzzles to solve, such as, How on earth did he manage to wriggle out of that one? Nothing more alarming than any other Win/Lose situation, I would suggest.
I'm not sure why, but the following message I received on my blog seems familiar somehow. Phoenix, you seem to think you're a clever chap, perhaps you might spot a clue that I've missed.


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You'll have to get it right first time now, won't you? No more back-fitting and after-timing for the puppet, whose strings are slowly being tightened.
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matrix wrote: Not suggesting that at all LST, I'm all for maintaining or encouraging independence. I just wanted to show as well as lots of ads to the children they also communicated to the parents so when young Johnny or Debbie came along and asked for those comics the parents all ready new what they were talking about.
Ah, gotcha! When Kid said 'best informed' I thought he was continuing the 'kids don't necessarily know what's good for them' argument, hence my response.
Kid Robson wrote:
Little Squelchy Thing wrote:It IS all about communication, I agree, but it goes both ways, is my point. Kids can listen to their parents, but I don't think it's entirely unreasonable or shocking to suggest that parents listen to their kids too.
And nor was I suggesting otherwise. However, the reality is that children's choices often have to meet with parental approval.
Parental approval is of course to be expected, I was just sad to see that in your example, that meant dismissing something partly because they didn't like the thing themselves. Heaven knows my parents rolled their eyes at whatever new comic/toy/cartoon I chanced upon ('Thundercats? What? What happened to Stingray? Sigh!') but as long as it was age appropriate and didn't corrupt me, I was allowed to enjoy whatever I enjoyed, whether they personally liked it or not.
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Little Squelchy Thing wrote:Parental approval is of course to be expected, I was just sad to see that in your example, that meant dismissing something partly because they didn't like the thing themselves.
But that's a reality. Parents sometimes will not buy something that little Johnny likes, because they think it's either not very good or too expensive - or both. Also, when it comes to spending money, just because little Johnny may like something, it's not enough of a reason to indulge him. I'll be honest. If I had kids, I wouldn't be buying The Beano for them right now, although I would've been a few months back. If they were old enough to make their own informed choices on what they buy with their pocketmoney, that would be different, but not if they look to me to make the purchase as a 'treat'.
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Kid Robson wrote:
Little Squelchy Thing wrote:Parental approval is of course to be expected, I was just sad to see that in your example, that meant dismissing something partly because they didn't like the thing themselves.
But that's a reality. Parents sometimes will not buy something that little Johnny likes, because they think it's either not very good or too expensive - or both. Also, when it comes to spending money, just because little Johnny may like something, it's not enough of a reason to indulge him. I'll be honest. If I had kids, I wouldn't be buying The Beano for them right now, although I would've been a few months back. If they were old enough to make their own informed choices on what they buy with their pocketmoney, that would be different, but not if they look to me to make the purchase as a 'treat'.
Oh, I'm not denying that it's a reality, just sad that it is and glad it wasn't a reality for me, or I'd have missed out on some awesome stuff.
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I must admit that the only reason the small one is not getting her Beano at the moment is because she did something very naughty and the loss of the Beano is part of the fine. She likes the current Beano, but she prefers the older Beano as in 60's/70's due to the number of panels per page so she gets more to read. She wouldn't mind the old newsprint, but I suspect that she is in a minority.
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I really don't think you should treat your wife like that, colcool.
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