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Re: This weeks Dandy

Posted: 02 Oct 2011, 02:01
by Digifiend
Anyway, I guess the lettering staff at both comics are the same people. Nobody's lost their job.

Re: This weeks Dandy

Posted: 02 Oct 2011, 08:35
by Jonny Whizz
I think in some of Trevor Metcalfe's Roger the Dodger and Ivy the Terrible strips around 2003 or so he did his own lettering, but I think he was using a Wacom tablet by that time anyway, so it shouldn't count as hand-lettered.

I have tried both methods in the past on my own comic strips, and I'm not sure which approach is better. On one hand, not drawing the speech bubbles leaves more room for your artwork, but then again as you say Lew, sometimes the balloons can be positioned awkwardly and cover up important details. Also, some cartoonists have better hand writing than others, for example I have good eyesight but even I find Phil Corbett's lettering a little scrawly at times.

I must also say I have a preference for block capitals in speech ballons, probably because it was what I was used to as a child but I think they suit my artwork better as well. I think lower case letters look more appropriate for more modern artwork styles, though again that's just what I think.

Re: This weeks Dandy

Posted: 02 Oct 2011, 09:21
by Ginger
Jonny Whizz wrote:I think in some of Trevor Metcalfe's Roger the Dodger and Ivy the Terrible strips around 2003 or so he did his own lettering, but I think he was using a Wacom tablet by that time anyway, so it shouldn't count as hand-lettered.
Did he do it with his foot, then?
Working with a Wacom is still hand-drawing or hand-lettering, it's just using a different medium. I mean, it's clearly different to typing the lettering out with a font, isn't it.

Re: This weeks Dandy

Posted: 02 Oct 2011, 09:36
by Jonny Whizz
I'm not sure whether he drew the speech bubbles himself, or whether he added them in later. However, they were different from the house style, as the balloons were square with rounded edges. The normal balloons at the time were round on each line, often with line lengths varying, and the font style was different.

Re: This weeks Dandy

Posted: 02 Oct 2011, 12:54
by yanobandy
Ginger wrote:Well, Rocky's Horror Show did not disappoint. Quite marvellous. Reminded me of early Mad magazine.
Odd that the Dandy scheduled two Frankenstein spoofs in one issue, though, no? Nuke Noodle being the other (and also very good).
I loved the use of colour in Mr Meecher; very cleverly culminating in the final panel.
And an enjoyable return for George vs Dragon.

On the negative side, I'm afraid I really don't think Phil Corbett's Korky cuts the mustard at all, if it must be in the comic I think the most it deserevs is a mini-strip. As a page it's just terribly poor value: Compare it to Rocky's Horror Show, or The Bogies (good again this week), or even Harry Hill. It just doesn't seem like Mr Corbett's heart is in it. Six sparsely drawn panels, and scarcely troubling the scorer on the Laughs Per Page ratio.
I do feel this redesign of Korky was a mistake. Oh it's a cute enough character, of course, but it looks much more like one of Korky's nephews than Korky himself.
I'm sorry, but Rocky's Horror Show was certainly not "marvellous."

Re: This weeks Dandy

Posted: 02 Oct 2011, 19:12
by Ginger
yanobandy wrote:I'm sorry, but Rocky's Horror Show was certainly not "marvellous."
Well, I have to be honest, I don't expect to find many points of agreement with the author of this comment:
yanobandy wrote:Are you ready for the question, noel is hilarious!
That joke must be older than the Dandy itself!

I think we're on very different comedy wavelengths, my friend.

Re: This weeks Dandy

Posted: 02 Oct 2011, 19:15
by yanobandy
I expected Rocky's Horror Show to be more funny and smiley, but it ended up as a rubbish strip about some doctor who created a terrible monster. I didnt want that. I wanted laughs and smiles.

Re: This weeks Dandy

Posted: 02 Oct 2011, 19:16
by yanobandy
And Are you ready for the question, noel is very funny and exciting, just what i want.

Re: This weeks Dandy

Posted: 02 Oct 2011, 20:10
by WizzKid97
yanobandy wrote:I expected Rocky's Horror Show to be more funny and smiley, but it ended up as a rubbish strip about some doctor who created a terrible monster. I didnt want that. I wanted laughs and smiles.
Will will be pleased when he reads that.

Seriously, calling it rubbish? That's just mean and uncalled for.

And it was funny, but a different sort of 'funny'.

Look, you may have your own opinions but remember, so do we. Besides, Will is a member of this forum and I reckon he'll be quite upset that you called his stuff rubbish.
yanobandy wrote:And Are you ready for the question, noel is very funny and exciting, just what i want.
Really? Well, that's your opinion. But I honestly don't find it funny nor exciting. Rocky's Horror Show was exciting for me. 'Are you Ready for the Question, Noel?' is boring, I love Wayne's artwork and art-wise the story doesn't fail to impress but storywise. very weak.

Re: This weeks Dandy

Posted: 02 Oct 2011, 20:55
by Ginger
yanobandy wrote:And Are you ready for the question, noel is very funny and exciting, just what i want.
You must have an absolute scream round the dining table at Christmas, with all the cracker jokes. :wink:

Re: This weeks Dandy

Posted: 02 Oct 2011, 21:04
by WizzKid97
Look guys calm it. You're both being a bit silly now. You both have your opinions. Just leave it at that.

Re: This weeks Dandy

Posted: 02 Oct 2011, 21:47
by yanobandy
WizzKid97 wrote:
yanobandy wrote:I expected Rocky's Horror Show to be more funny and smiley, but it ended up as a rubbish strip about some doctor who created a terrible monster. I didnt want that. I wanted laughs and smiles.
Will will be pleased when he reads that.

Seriously, calling it rubbish? That's just mean and uncalled for.

And it was funny, but a different sort of 'funny'.

Look, you may have your own opinions but remember, so do we. Besides, Will is a member of this forum and I reckon he'll be quite upset that you called his stuff rubbish.
yanobandy wrote:And Are you ready for the question, noel is very funny and exciting, just what i want.
Really? Well, that's your opinion. But I honestly don't find it funny nor exciting. Rocky's Horror Show was exciting for me. 'Are you Ready for the Question, Noel?' is boring, I love Wayne's artwork and art-wise the story doesn't fail to impress but storywise. very weak.
Are you ready for the question noel, isnt even a story, it's a very good joke. And, okay if you like Rocky's Horror Show, but it's a bit of an odd strip for the dandy,

Re: This weeks Dandy

Posted: 02 Oct 2011, 21:50
by yanobandy
Oh, and Rocky's Horror Show should'nt be in the dandy anyway, what kids really are "Horror fans" like they were supposed to be in the first panel?

Re: This weeks Dandy

Posted: 02 Oct 2011, 22:18
by WizzKid97
yanobandy wrote:Oh, and Rocky's Horror Show should'nt be in the dandy anyway, what kids really are "Horror fans" like they were supposed to be in the first panel?
Why not? Why "shouldn't" it? There's nothing wrong with it, besides, you shouldn't base your opinon on one strip. Give it a chance!

Also, 'Are you Ready for the Question, Noel?' is hardly clever! It's just Knock, Knock jokes with celebrity input.

Re: This weeks Dandy

Posted: 02 Oct 2011, 22:55
by -MikeD-
yanobandy wrote:Oh, and Rocky's Horror Show should'nt be in the dandy anyway, what kids really are "Horror fans" like they were supposed to be in the first panel?
It's a parody of the way horror stories are introduced, especially in EC comics and on American cable channels. It's a trope that's often used, and most kids will be aware of it, if only from The Simpson's many Halloween specials.

But I'll tell you what is a joke - 40+ comments in four days (and most of them are pretty irrelevant). Are you gunning for Digifiend/Lew's posting record? :)