Just to lets yous know:
There is an article on the demise of and need for football comic strips in this month's edition of When Saturday Comes.
I'll be reading my copy on the bus home tonight.
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http://www.wsc.co.uk/wsc-daily/1153-oct ... 09-out-now
Extract from the website:
Extract from the website:
Comic effects The disappearance of fictional football heroes
"For almost 50 years the reality of the game was shadowed by comic strip players. Chief among them was Roy Race – the man who made 'real Roy of the Rovers stuff' a commentary cliche for the ages. There were many more spanning the strata of football worlds – from the secondary school antics of Billy's Boots and Tommy's Troubles, through Hebridean superman Hot Shot Hamish to the odd-couple Chelsey brothers Jack and Jimmy in Scorcher and Score. These players gave us all someone else to cheer for, even when there was not a 'real' match on; a second team to secretly get behind – you can still buy Melchester Rovers replica shirts online. Gradually they disappeared. The last weekly Roy of the Rovers comic was published in 1993 and the last new story featuring the character at all, by then relegated to a single page in the monthly Match of the Day magazine, in 2001." Buy here to read the full article
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Read the article - some salient points.
Do need some footie strips - and perhaps told from the ignored grass roots level outside the premiership and better roles models than todays overpaid lot.
A few Murphy's Mob style strips abput fans and their financial struggles would be good.
Also, with more girls playing and getting good, but ignored too much by the media, needs to be a few strips about girls playing football. How about one about a team rising from amateur to professional, having to deal with struggles mostly with sponsorship & undermining from disapproving males, a lot from the Sid the Sexist media (ie the Andy Grays, Rodney Marsh who once said "all women footballers are lesbians").
If girls' comics existied and were structured like they were in the 60s, there could be a few strips like this, with some good role models for girls (givent the concerns about lack of role models esp in the doc "Who Does Your Daughter Look Up To?").
And it wouldn't be like the soap-operarey "Playing The Fild" (went bad from season 2 in my opinion - and I never watch today's depressing soaps). Should be about what goes on the pitch & not on fretting about their looks/relationships.)
Do need some footie strips - and perhaps told from the ignored grass roots level outside the premiership and better roles models than todays overpaid lot.
A few Murphy's Mob style strips abput fans and their financial struggles would be good.
Also, with more girls playing and getting good, but ignored too much by the media, needs to be a few strips about girls playing football. How about one about a team rising from amateur to professional, having to deal with struggles mostly with sponsorship & undermining from disapproving males, a lot from the Sid the Sexist media (ie the Andy Grays, Rodney Marsh who once said "all women footballers are lesbians").
If girls' comics existied and were structured like they were in the 60s, there could be a few strips like this, with some good role models for girls (givent the concerns about lack of role models esp in the doc "Who Does Your Daughter Look Up To?").
And it wouldn't be like the soap-operarey "Playing The Fild" (went bad from season 2 in my opinion - and I never watch today's depressing soaps). Should be about what goes on the pitch & not on fretting about their looks/relationships.)
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Well I am planning on putting a football strip in my own comic, but who knows when that will appear? 
It's going to be about women's football too, but at the top level, and in the 1960's XD
It's going to be about women's football too, but at the top level, and in the 1960's XD
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Funny you mention that, as I've had this idea I've been going back to on and off for years about a comic strip on womens football set in the 1960s in a kind of parallel world.
I've imagined what if women's football was popular in the 60s as it is now, but even more so that it's more popular than the men's game was then.
Some stories could be based on real life things that went on in the men's game and female equivalents in name & appearance of the men's game at the time appear - such as Billie Bremner, Norma Hunter, Tammy Smith, Rach "Chopper" Harris for instance.
However they still have to put up with many Andy Gray meets Sid The Sexist Tv presenters & reporters & comeidians making vulgar ignorant sketches on TV about womens football (like Benny Hill did in 1980 & Hale & Pace did in 1990).
Might scribble some more ideas for that work...
I've imagined what if women's football was popular in the 60s as it is now, but even more so that it's more popular than the men's game was then.
Some stories could be based on real life things that went on in the men's game and female equivalents in name & appearance of the men's game at the time appear - such as Billie Bremner, Norma Hunter, Tammy Smith, Rach "Chopper" Harris for instance.
However they still have to put up with many Andy Gray meets Sid The Sexist Tv presenters & reporters & comeidians making vulgar ignorant sketches on TV about womens football (like Benny Hill did in 1980 & Hale & Pace did in 1990).
Might scribble some more ideas for that work...
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o_O surprisingly similar to my ideas, actually! Except in my one the women's FA Cup starts in the 1962-3 season, and is initially about as popular as it is in the real world, but then "football fever" in 1966 gives it a boost. The women's world cup, in this world, starts in 1968 (the first one held in Russia).
I wasn't actually thinking of having sexist TV commentators / comedians. But I was going to have the main character's dad being against it, despite always going on about how he "fought for freedom" (Actually he got shot in the foot and is just angry that he can no longer play). Also the heard-hearted boss of the local mill where the main character, Mary Cartwright, once worked is against women's football, but later on is pressed into sponsoring the team.
There'd also be class conflict between public school girls and mill girls, and in a later storyline one of the rich ones loses all her money somehow. But as I'm only making 2 comics a year so far, planning future storylines is a bit moot.
I wasn't actually thinking of having sexist TV commentators / comedians. But I was going to have the main character's dad being against it, despite always going on about how he "fought for freedom" (Actually he got shot in the foot and is just angry that he can no longer play). Also the heard-hearted boss of the local mill where the main character, Mary Cartwright, once worked is against women's football, but later on is pressed into sponsoring the team.
There'd also be class conflict between public school girls and mill girls, and in a later storyline one of the rich ones loses all her money somehow. But as I'm only making 2 comics a year so far, planning future storylines is a bit moot.
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Great minds thinking alike here!
Dug some of my old scribblings on this recently.
My idea did include the women winnning the 1974 World Cup (when England didn't qualify thanks to the Polish clown). Plus their endorsing of 70s products, some dodgy (Ronco?).
Also does include disapproving fathers & bitter on-pitch rivalries (including ones on class) that have to be forgotten in the national team - but the top league team is one from all backgrounds (a la "Striker" Warbury Warriors).
The bits about sexist media & commentators has a nod to more recent events (Andy Gray) plus the always often said greivance about the lack of media coverage of the women's game & how other continents' media take it more seriously & women having more prominent roles in sport media. And that much airtime & press jobs is or has been given to anti-women's football people like Jeff Powell (Dailt Mail) & Rodney Marsh ("its a man's game/lads' club" etc)
As for "comeidians" - I bet a few more unfunny vulgar comeidians have made more ignorant jokes about women's football since unfunny Hale & Pace in 1990.
Dug some of my old scribblings on this recently.
My idea did include the women winnning the 1974 World Cup (when England didn't qualify thanks to the Polish clown). Plus their endorsing of 70s products, some dodgy (Ronco?).
Also does include disapproving fathers & bitter on-pitch rivalries (including ones on class) that have to be forgotten in the national team - but the top league team is one from all backgrounds (a la "Striker" Warbury Warriors).
The bits about sexist media & commentators has a nod to more recent events (Andy Gray) plus the always often said greivance about the lack of media coverage of the women's game & how other continents' media take it more seriously & women having more prominent roles in sport media. And that much airtime & press jobs is or has been given to anti-women's football people like Jeff Powell (Dailt Mail) & Rodney Marsh ("its a man's game/lads' club" etc)
As for "comeidians" - I bet a few more unfunny vulgar comeidians have made more ignorant jokes about women's football since unfunny Hale & Pace in 1990.
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Page 47 of Football's Comic Book Heroes.
An article from The Boy's Pictorial 21st January 1921.
Should Girls Play Footer?
What The Mere Man Thinks About It.
Article concludes 'A word to the girls who do play-stop it. Whatever you think, you are not admired by the opposite sex.
This was at a time when the FA threatened to ban clubs who allowed women's teams to play on their grounds. The women's teams were so popular the FA believed they were taking money away from the clubs, and presumably directors, pockets. Dick,Kerr Ladies raised money for war charities. A fixture at Goodison Park on Boxing Day 1920 attracted 53,000 spectators with several thousand locked out.
Comics run a number of popular stories featuring girls including 'Meg Foster-Footballer' and 'Nell O'Newcastle' both who appeared in The Football Favourite.
An article from The Boy's Pictorial 21st January 1921.
Should Girls Play Footer?
What The Mere Man Thinks About It.
Article concludes 'A word to the girls who do play-stop it. Whatever you think, you are not admired by the opposite sex.
This was at a time when the FA threatened to ban clubs who allowed women's teams to play on their grounds. The women's teams were so popular the FA believed they were taking money away from the clubs, and presumably directors, pockets. Dick,Kerr Ladies raised money for war charities. A fixture at Goodison Park on Boxing Day 1920 attracted 53,000 spectators with several thousand locked out.
Comics run a number of popular stories featuring girls including 'Meg Foster-Footballer' and 'Nell O'Newcastle' both who appeared in The Football Favourite.